Zero-sum game choices for India as China-Russia Anti-Quad’emerges&Pakistan tags along
The world’s Geo-strategic order is evolving yet again.In Episode 934 of CutTheClutter，Shekhar Gupta looks at the warming relations between Russia-Pak，Russia’s growing dependency on China and what this means for India.We also look at the role India’s’strategic ally，America plays.
世界地缘战略秩序再次演变。谢加·古普塔审视了俄巴关系的升温、 对中国日益增长的依赖以及这对 意味着什么。我们还研究了 的“战略盟友”美国所扮演的角色。
We wouldn’t be in this situation if we had a merit based sy em and competent people in power.
Not good for India，but I think it was inevitable for India，governed by our geopo itics.Not somethingwe can control，but need to realize that it will happen and be nimble enough to make best out of it.
Very well articulated a complex topic by Gupta Sir.My maths Sir always told me first try to understand the problem then only you can find solution.By the effort of Gupta Sir every Indians must understood the problem and a common solution must be in every one mind should be make yourself strong as much as possible.Don’t dependent permanently on anyone even on Russia for arms or US for prection from China as Ouard.
Until people stop choosing leaders based on caste and re gion india will always be a small player on international scale
Countries sovereignty depends on its own capabilities，you cannot rely on third countries to help you.The stronger India becomes all these countries fall in line.
We should just put our head down and work towards a bigger economy…and reduce our dependence on Russia…We can do this much only for now..
Russia has always been a good ally eventhough their feedback on Galwan before the Chinese deplayment seem suspicious.Only option is to follow Chinese path.Grow stronger in all parameters while staying low
No one is permanent friends or enemies，Everyone’s intrest makes them friends&enemies
India must develop herself strongly along the lines of Atmanirbhar Bharat and focus on strengthening her economy by kee cordial relations/non alignment with both West and Russia so that best of both sides can be utilized to her advantage.India definitely must not involve herself in matters like Ukraine which may cost her very dearly.
The truth is China played the western liberal democracies well over the past 35 years by first taking their manufacturing jobs and getting them addicted to super ch exploitative manufacturing supply chain，building the economic muscle and using it to build the military&diplomatic ones.While we were bragging about our IT services，generic pharma and bollywood based soft super power.
Historically，no nation has ever become dominant world power without having strong core manufacturing capability as its main growth engine.Even the west as we know today became rich and mighty only because of core industrial revo tion before switching to and now regretting about being the services based economies which have all core supply chain strings now being played by the Chinese.
Thanks for your views Sir.It is an important move that defines future events.Clear polarization If US increases sanctions on Russia，there is no doubt Russia will depend more on China，NK，Pakistan，Iran，Afghanistan etc.Another aspect is softer stands by Germany and Francetowards Russia.Alternate source of gas energy from Israel and or Qatar depends on how Turnkey is going to react.We need to wait and watch.
It’s been extremely challenging for the current go nment on all fronts.It seems everytime Mr.Modi starts relang，something pops up.I noticed today during his that he has lost a lot of hair.
This Russia Pakistan bonhomie might make Mr.Modi completely bald
It’s now wait and watch.All people can wish is to have diplomatic win over current Ukraine border crisis.
Russia cannot be junior partner to anyone.The struggle between China and Russia is inevitable As long as the US gave them headache，they are partners.We need strategic autonomy because we are also of same category.Let them fight.The only thing we need is independent foreign policy regarding us.We need China to keep themselves busy with America.Pakistan is busy with itself.We don’t need to do anything there.They are their own grave maker.
Just reminding history，During Cuban crisis of Oct，1962 directly bet U.S and USSR.India is Geopo itically out in the Open and China attacked India on 20th Oct 1962.Centre has to actfast，It can’t sleep over the documents and blame old govts anymore.Not to mention there r 20K+ Indian students and professionals in Ukraine.
We have a bigger and faster growing economy than russia，we have young population which is not stagnant and a large standing army too but what we lack is required technology especially military and space technology and we are dependent on that technoloay from russia be it Arihant class subs or Long range ballistic missile.It would be prudent if we try our level best to gain technoloqical access in domains of aerospace，complex shipbuilding，space travel etc.for that i think countries like Israel and France can help us.We should learn to imbibe technology and then enhance it to make better products.
When it comes to economics and culture what would you choose.Chosing economics over culture ensures prosperity but you will lose your identity choosing culture over economics ensures we are in perpetual poverty.Both are needed in a nation like India.Culture is so deep roed in India it has vice like casteism not just in Hindus but also among Mus ms and Chr tians as well.Only way forward is education.
We face a choice between de l and deep blue sea.Siding with US is not feasible as it is an unreliable ally who can ditch even its strongest ally，forget what it can do to India.
These issues are less complicated than they are made out to be.The simple explanation is tha unless there is a quid pro quo there is no relationship.Geographical location of Pak（as SG hac said in an earlier programme）is what they can give.China and Russia are interdependent economically（SG has said this also in an earlier programme）.What can India contribute？A market？Can India give away the one thing that will help in its development，progress etc
Tailpiece：India has no choice but to keep at bay the wolves on two fronts and con trate on the economy
India has provided the provocation when she joined”Quad”.India hoped to manage Russia.
Pakistan is not a lux soap.Its a giant military power，we should not underestimate them.
sometimes external threats are good for country as diverse as India.it keeps us united and focus on development.this situation is need of hour for India
with weaken US power，there will be more bnce in partnership with US.
Difficult situation，but positive things can come out of it for India.
Strong economy + Military industrial ecosy em capable of buildinq world class wons + strong nationalism and consensus on most problem areas such as UCC etc..
This is what India needs in next 2-3 years！！
Pakistan is responsible for the defeat and disintegration of Soviet Union in Afghanistan and at the same time kick out America from Afghanistan is a serious challenge to India
I feel India needs to make peace with Pakistan&China or atleast China.Why？Because India will be left alone or isolated in its own neighborhood.
This is what happens when you have your legs on 2 boats.India was playing along both sides so this was to happen.Why did India join QUAD.China and Russia are not friends they are brothers.They stick together since WW2 ag inst USA.Russia and China helped Vietnam anc Korean war ag inst USA and in both USA lost
I hope our foreign policy takes decisive steps and pivot towards precting our own interest
“A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush..”we should have remembered that…
this is self reliance is so important，we started pretty late in that sector.