6+6+6!中国空军连续3天总共18架次运-20″鲲鹏”运输机飞往塞尔维亚…欧美网友炸锅了!

2022.4.13 发布在 世界看中国 栏目

6+6+6!中国空军连续3天总共18架次运-20

FlightRadar24的信息显示,10日,第二批6架运-20大型运输机穿越土耳其领空,抵达塞尔维亚贝尔格莱德的巴塔尼察空军基地。
加上9日的6架,三天之内总共18架运-20抵达塞尔维亚

网友评论:

Alan ford

And this operation is semi-secret because of exactly what?Was the operation of buying rockets and airplanes by Serbia fr om France,a NATO country,also semi-secret?
而这个操作是半秘密的,究竟是因为什么?塞尔维亚从北约国家法国购买导弹和飞机的行动也是半秘密的吗?

Miloslena

serbia buys defensive weapons and not for attack,and what to do with so much gold under our feet we have to spend somewh ere.
塞尔维亚购买防御性的武器,这不是为了进攻,我们有这么多钱怎么办,我们必须把钱花在某个地方的。

American2020

If Serbia wants to get into the E.U.they are going about it the wrong way,and these types of actions make it highly unl ikely they will be admitted.Ukraine on the other hand is being fast tracked for admission.
如果塞尔维亚想加入欧盟。他们的做法是错误的,而这些类型的行为,使他们极不可能被(欧盟)接受。而另一方面,乌克兰正在快速地被承认接受。

Miloslena

For our money we can buy what we want
我们拿自己的钱,可以买任何我们想要的东西!

Jase Prase Saka Privatnost

EU is falling apart…isn’t it obvious???…and poor Ukraine-if you think that getting into the EU is a great gain,talk to all the relatives of the dead people that have been killed in the war and the ones that are starving for Zelenski’s promises..pathetic
欧盟正在分崩离析这不是很明显吗?还有可怜的乌克兰,如果你认为加入欧盟是一个巨大的收获,那就和战争中死者的所有亲属以及那些等待泽伦斯基承诺的人谈谈吧…真的可悲。

SteveI

Landed at 618 am,no registration number available.I have a screenshot but cant post it here
早上6:18降落,没有能找到的注册号,我有个截图但不能在这里发布。

SteveI

What you failed to discover:One of the six China Air Force Y-20A transports originated in Moscow,while the others came directly from China.And this morning 2 more arrived and are now returning at 11:03 April 10 2022
你没有发现的事情:中国空军的六架运20A运输机中的一架是从莫斯科起飞的,而其他的则直接来自中国。今天早上还有另外2架到达,现在(2022年4月10日11:03)正在返回。
【注:从莫斯科起飞这个没有得到证实。】

Tsotsi

Actually,all six made a return visit in the last 24 hrs.ID Numbers 20041,20042,20045.20047,20049 and 200142.
All 6 can carry around 6o tonnes so the total capacity of 12 plane loads is around 720 000 kg.That’s an awful lot of’ stuff.
The delivery of anti aireraft equipment explanation now seems a bit thin.
BTW,what was the ID of the one which originated in Moscow?
实际上,所有6架飞机都在过去24小时内进行了再次回访。这6架运输机的编号是20041,20042,20045,20047,20049和2001420所有的6架飞机都可以载重约60吨,所以12架飞机的总载重量约为720吨,这是很大一堆“东西”了。
“交付防空设备”这种说法现在似乎有点单薄。
顺便说一句,从莫斯科起飞的那架飞机编号是什么?

SteveI

That would require me doing some digging But it landed in Antalya International at the same time the others did on Frida y1opm NY time.
(那架飞机的编号)我需要做一些搜寻才知道,但它和其它飞机同时在纽约时间周五晚上10点降落在安塔利亚国际机场。

NightRidei2r_

That is a bit too much for Serbia.
Is Russia the intended destination?
对塞尔维亚来说这些装备有点太多了。
俄罗斯是预定的目的地吗?

poopANDweed

No-Serbia agreed to buy the system in 2019 and actually chose this system over,I believe,the S-300.Russia was not ha ppy
不一塞尔维亚在2019年同意购买该系统,并且实际上跳过S300选择了该系统,俄罗斯不会高兴。

Alternative_Wait8256

It would be strange for China to fly the system to Serbia to then move it to Russia.
(如果)中国将系统空运到塞尔维亚然后再转移到俄罗斯,这会是很奇怪的。

Ooki_Jumoku

Interesting thought as it would allow China to support Russia with weapons without being overt.
However I don’t see how they could get it there easily and honestly lowest of the list of Russian need right now would be AA systems.
I think it is more likely for Serbia in case of WW3,or they might try to push another localised conflict and use it to d eter a No Fly Zone
有趣的想法,因为它可以让中国在不公开的情况下用武器支持俄罗斯。
然而,我不明白他们怎么能轻易做到这一点,老实说,俄罗斯目前的需求清单中,需求最低的就是防空系统。
我认为塞尔维亚更有可能在三战的情况下,或者他们可能会试图推动另一场局部冲突(才会使用这些系统),并用这些防空系统来制止禁飞区的设置。

Peruvian_Hitman

I read somewhere that this shipment of arms is due to a deal signed a few years ago,but I guess only time will tell.
我在其他的某个地方读到,这批武器是由于几年前签署的一项协议,但我想只有时间才能证明一切。

throwaway221766

This deal was agreed on in 2019.They are just now taking delivery.
这笔交易是在2019年达成的,他们现在刚刚收货。

NotUpsetAtAll

If anything it is a big blow to Russia.China is stealing their customers and the funny thing is Russia cant do anything about it.
如果这是真的话,这对俄罗斯来说是一个巨大的打击。中国正在“撬”他们的客户,有趣的是俄罗斯对此无能为力。

throwaway221766

You could look at it like that,or you could look at it like China is helping Russia by deciding to deliver it now.Serbi a is a Russian ally,so if worst comes to worst,it will be used to support Russia.
你可以这样认为,或者你可以看作是中国通过现在交付系统来帮助俄罗斯。塞尔维亚是俄罗斯的盟友,所以如果最坏的情况发生,(那个系统)可能被用来支持俄罗斯。

NotUpsetAtAll

Eh it is just a single battery of S-300 Chinese clone.It presents no danger to anyone.It is just a stupid newspaper hea dline.That being said China will very soon take over all Russian customers and soon Russia itself will buy Chinas equipme nt.It is just matter of economy,one thing ppl like Putin will never understand.
呃,它只是一个类似S300的中国货,它对任何人都没有危险。这只是一个愚蠢的报纸标题。话虽如此,中国很快将接管所有俄罗斯的客户,很快俄罗斯自己也将购买中国的装备。这是经济问题,是像普京这样的人永远无法理解的一件事。

Marc123123

Likely.That’s what they have done with any other manufacturing.
有可能。这是他们对任何其他的制造业所做的事情。

goodtalkruss

Serbia is still stinging from what NATO did to it from the air.Like many countries have done in the past,Serbia is prep aring for the last war it fought instead of the next one.Some of them might even believe that these SAM systems will surv ive the first hour of another conflict with NATO.
塞尔维亚仍然对北约从空中对其所做的事情感到刺痛。就像很多国家过去所做的那样,塞尔维亚正在为它进行过的上一场战争,而不是下一场战争做准备。他们中的一些人甚至可能认为这些地对空导弹系统将在与北约发生另一次冲突的第一个小时内幸存下来。

iejdjf716

You mean like nato bombed dummy targets for 78 days last time?And civilian trains and infrastructure of course.
你是说就像上次北约轰炸假目标78天那样吗?当然,(轰炸的)还有民用火车和基础设施。

goodtalkruss

If that’s the story young Serbians like you are telling each other,then I think it’s likely you will force NATO to pay the Balkans another visit in the not-too-distant future,which I think is a damned shame.I would encourage you to look to neutral sources to learn about what really happened.
如果这就是像你们这样年轻的塞尔维亚人互相讲述传播的故事,那么我认为你们很可能会迫使北约在不久的将来再次访问巴尔干地区,我认为这真是太可惜了。我鼓励你寻找中立的新闻来源,以了解真正发生的事情。

iejdjf716

Yes please,you teach me what happened in my country.You’re a brainwashed degen.
Nato isnt gonna pay anyone a visit anytime soon.Your economy is on the brink of collapsing and the future belongs to the east.You’re fucked,the chinese are already unzipping the khakis.
是的,请你来教教我,在我的国家发生了什么。你个被洗脑的变态。
北约在短期内不会再拜访任何国家了,你们的经济处于崩溃的边缘,未来属于东方。你们就要被f..k了,中国人已经在解开卡其裤的拉链了。

kuda-stonk

Or it replaces a Serbian system to send their current stuff to the front lines for russia.
或者它会替代塞尔维亚的(防空)系统,而(塞尔维亚)现有的东西送到俄罗斯的前线。

curmudgeonpl

No,this was ordered through public procurement in 2019 or 2020.The Chinese won the bid,actually beat Russia,I think.
This is not Ukraine related,just a delivery.Still interesting to see a big flight of Chinese supply planes in Europe!:)
不是的!这是在2019年或者2020年通过公共采购订购的。我认为实际上中国击败了俄罗斯中的标,这与乌克兰局势无关,只是(之前订单的)交付。不过在欧洲看到中国运输机的大规模飞行仍然很有趣!

KcufSamoht

Well.If NATO went to war with Serbia in the future.Those systems would get wiped out early on without causing much dama ge.I wouldn’t trust Chinese equipment.
好吧,如果未来北约与塞尔维亚开战,这些系统会在早期被消灭而不会造成太大的损害。我不会相信中国装备。

Acrobatic_Hat_4865

Serbian infiltrants provide EU and NATO with the latest upxes according to Chinese and Russian equipment deliveries.
ine trusting Serbs with anything That thing will get stolen and sold to the highest bidder in the West.
塞尔维亚渗透者根据中国和俄罗斯设备的交付,向欧盟和北约提供最新信息。在所有事情上都信任塞尔维亚人.那东西会被偷走,卖给西方出价最高的人。

Jealous_Tangerine_93

Perhaps Poland or another neighbouring country to Ukraine,do similar!The playing field needs to be evened out
也许波兰或者乌克兰的另一个邻国也应该这样做!比赛场地上需要(实力)平衡!

EasternMotors

Seems weird not to put it on a ship/containers.They obv want to publicize it.
不把它放在船上/集装箱里似乎很奇怪。他们明显想要宣传它。

Ooki_Jumoku

Or the need was urgent…
或者需求很紧急

Connect-Row7877

Like everything else made in China,it will be broken in a week
和其他中国制造一样,一周后就坏了..

Less-Raspberry-6222

Best technology they can steal!
他们可以偷的最佳技术!

Marc123123

When was the last time you checked where your laptop/PC parts were manufactured?
你上次检查笔记本电脑部件的制造地点是什么时候?

mr_fobolous

iPhones are made in China.
iPhane是中国制造的。

Finlander95

If Serbia attacked Kosovo US would just fire volley after volley of Tomahawks from ships hundreds of miles away.
如果塞尔维亚袭击科索沃,美国只会从数百英里外的船只上发射一连串的战斧巡航导弹齐射。

Noburn2022

During Yom Kippur war in 1973,Israelis defeated walls of Syrian SAMs with…DRONES.That was in 1973!
NATO has a lot of drones,I wouldn’t worry too much about those SAMs.Further,NATO has good SEAD capabilities.
在1973年的赎罪日战争期间,以色列人用无人机击败了叙利亚萨姆防空导弹的防御,那是在1973年!
北约有很多无人机,我不会太担心这些防空导弹。此外,北约有很好的对敌防空压制能力。

Alobalo27

As a Bosnian I hope the world doesn’t forget about us again and helps when the time comes.
Fuck Russia and Fuck Serbia Slava Ukraine!
作为波斯尼亚人,我希望世界不会再次忘记我们,并在事情发生时能够给我们提供帮助。
去他妈的俄罗斯,去他妈的塞尔维亚,荣耀乌克兰!

saksents

Sounds like the Chinese government has chosen a position of supporting Russia
听起来中国政府选择了支持俄罗斯的立场.

Crazyhairmonster

What?Did you think through your train of thought.Are you implying that Serbia will send these to Russia?Serbia which d oes not share a border with Russia and would have to fly through NATO airspace?
China shares a gigantic land border with Russia…
怎么会?你想清楚你的思路了吗?你是在暗示塞尔维亚会把这些东西送到俄罗斯吗?塞尔维亚与俄罗斯不接壤,必须飞越北约领空
而中国与俄罗斯有着巨大的陆地边界…

Marc123123

So,China is supporting Russia by sending AA system(not needed by Russia)to Serbia(not involved in the war).Yup,soun d logic here.
因此,中国通过向塞尔维亚(未参与战争)发送防空系统(俄罗斯不需要)来支持俄罗斯。是的,这里逻辑听起来很合理。

saksents

Nah,you just didn’t understand me at all;I’m not saying Serbia is sending these to Russia,I’m saying China providing aRussian ally with these is more of a statement of support for Russia than anything else given the location,timing,and s ecrecy.
不,你根本没搞懂我的意思;我不是说塞尔维亚将把这些东西送到俄罗斯,我是说考虑到地点、时间和保密性,中国向俄罗斯的盟友提供这些东西,更多的是对俄罗斯的支持声明。

Marc123123

It is an order from 2019
这是2019年的订单!

saksents

So what?Much of the equipment being used right now for this conflict was ordered and manufactured years ago and delivere d within the last weeks.
It’s okay bro,we don’t see eye to eye on this tiny little thing,I hope you have a nice day
所以那又如何?现在用于这场冲突的大部分设备,都是几年前订购和制造的,并在最近几周内交付。
没关系的,兄弟,我们只是对这个小事情意见不一,希望你有美好的一天!

Whole-Lingonberry-74

The Serbs like to kill and rape civilians too.At least they did in 1995-
塞尔维亚人也喜欢00和00平民,至少他们在1995年这么做了。

krucabomba

Bad news for Kosovo.
对科索沃来说是个坏消息。

mertseger67

Serbia has to buy weapons for one reason,because Americans donate large quantities to Croatia,16 kiowa,2 Black hawk he licopters,84 bradleys and some other stuff.Obviously they would like to have another war in the Balkans.
塞尔维亚必须购买武器有一个原因,因为美国人向克罗地亚捐赠了大量武器,16架基奥瓦武装侦察直升机,2架黑鹰直升机,8辆布拉德利步兵战车,以及其他的一些东西。显然,他们想要在巴尔干半岛再发生一场战争。

IsabeliJane

Putting”sophisticated”and”china”together means”it’s garbage”.
On the other hand,is it a purchase to beef up Serbian military?For Serbian troops as part of Russia’s version of Foreig n Legion?
将”sophisticated(先进精密的)”和”china(中国)”放在一起意味着“它是00”
另外,购买这些系统是为了加强塞尔维亚的军事力量吗?塞尔维亚军队是俄罗斯外籍军团的一部分吗?

naivemarky

“Veiled operation”?An AA defense system was purchased years ago,and delivered in broad daylight.
“隐蔽行动”?几年前购买了一套防空系统,并在光天白日之下进行交付。

strech3323

Waste of money,F35’s will destroy all their air defence in 3 days….
浪费钱,F35会在3天内摧毁他们所有的防空系统…

DistributionOwn13

If its Chinese it will probably fall apart or break when being used
如果它是中国的,它可能会在使用时坏掉

Marc123123

Now check where your laptop has been produced.You may be up for a shock.
现在检查你的笔记本电脑是在哪里生产的。你可能会感到震惊。

ukarine22

Not great news for KOSOVO
对科索沃来说不是好消息。

amnesiag19

Kosovars are drug dealers,I dont like them very much
科索沃人是毒贩,我不太喜欢他们!

ukarine22

maybe but…can you name a country that has not got drug dealers?
也许吧,但是你能说出一个没有毒贩的国家吗?

alphie8877

I wonder if sepratists might be the final recievers of this
我想知道分离主义者是否可能是这个的最终接收者.

Borrowedytime

They continue the delivery of FK-3/HQ-22 SAMs purchased by Serbia.
他们继续交付塞尔维亚购买的FK-3/HQ-22防空系统。

proces82

And not only SAM’s OD Some more military equipment has arrived…Edit:just to be clear it is all for Serbian milita ry.
而且不仅是防空系统,还有更多的军事装备已经到来了…编辑:只是为了澄清(这些装备)都是塞尔维亚军队自己用的。

Lukaszeq

Serbia-Russia’s aircraft carrier in Balkans.
塞尔维亚一俄罗斯在巴尔干半岛的航空母舰。

TurtleRocket9

Wow definitely concerning
哇,绝对有关联

Southern_Change9193

???This order was from 2019,which was 4 years ago.
?这个订单是从4年前的2019年开始的。

Skullslayer244

I only see 5 AF Y-20S
我只看到5架运-20..

Borrowedztime

Two photos are posted.Slide to see one solo Y-20.
发了两张照片,滑屏查看另一架单独的运-20..

DL.

Made in China…….Wow!
中国制造哇!

Jean W.

@D L.Just like your iphone
就和你的iPhane一样。

IS.

The Balkans has already been heavily militerized by the US-led NATO.Serbia is just playing catch-up to make sure it can defend itself.It hasn’t forgot what US and NATO did to her in 1999.
巴尔干地区已经被美国领导的北约高度军事化了。塞尔维亚只是在追赶(和北约国家的军事差距),以确保它能够自卫。它没有忘记美国和北约在1999年对它做了什么。

Red Panda:.

Six of these planes landed in Serbia?Must have been a beautiful sight to behold.
六架这样的飞机降落在塞尔维亚?那一定是一幅很漂亮的场景。

SSY.

It’s business.You buy I sell.
这都是生意,你买我卖。

Jean W.

Makes sense.Russia will win the war faster.
这有意义,俄罗斯将更快地赢得战争。

Raptor D.

@Jean W.No.More hardware for Ukrainians with their western lethal aid to destroy.Russia has lost this war.
@Jean W.不,乌克兰人从西方的致命援助中得到了更多的军事硬件。俄罗斯输掉了这场战争。

Zizi M.

Serbia needs to beef up its security too with Nato stockpiling more weapons against Russia&channeling arms to Ukrai ne.
塞尔维亚也需要加强其安全,因为北约为了对抗俄罗斯并将武器输送到乌克兰,而储存了更多的武器。

Pang-feiL.

As Serbia is an ally of Russia and she is located so close to Russia,one wonders whether these anti-air missile systems w ould be partially transferred to the Russian’s military force in Ukraine soon to compensate for her huge losses of anti-ai r missiles such as the S3oos in the war now raging on there.
由于塞尔维亚是俄罗斯的盟友,而且距离俄罗斯如此之近,由于(乌克兰)那里的战争正在猛烈进行,人们不禁要问,这些防空导弹系统是否会很快部分转移到俄罗斯在乌克兰的军队手中,以弥补俄罗斯在防空导弹方面(比如S300)的巨大损失。

Red Panda:

@Pang-fei L.No,because Russia has had no reason to use Ssoos yet.It is Ukraine that needs a missile defense.
@Pang-fei L.不,因为俄罗斯还没有使用S300的理由,需要导弹防御系统的是乌克兰。

Ian L.

It’s a beautiful sight to behold indeed.
那确实是一个美丽的景象。

Viro L.

It is Very fortunate that Russia has a reliable ally like China to counter NATO.It’s obvious that China’s help is a good.counter weight.China should also use this excercise as a good real military experience,which she lacks given China’s re latively peaceful nature.This is unlike America or the European invaders and colonisers with a history of brute aggressio n.
非常幸运的是,俄罗斯有一个像中国这样可靠的盟友来对抗北约。显然,中国的帮助是一个很好的反制力量。中国也应该把这次演练当成一种很好的真实军事体验,鉴于中国相对和平的性质,她缺乏这种体验-这与美国/欧洲的侵略者(殖民者)有着野蛮侵略的历史不同。

Yang X

It is a joke that Chinese defensive system threatening peace of Europe.It’s US and NATO supply tens of billions dollars worth of weapons to this area to encourage Ukrainian to kill themselves for the peace of NATO countries.
中国的防御系统威胁欧洲和平是一个笑话。是美国和北约,向该地区提供价值数百亿美元的武器,以鼓励乌克兰人为了北约国家的和平而自杀。
【注:南华转载的彭博的报道,文章暗示这是一种威胁。】

Viro L.

We have seen clearly how well American interference has destroyed the World,how fast America pulls out and takes off fro m a country that is of little value to them but after it’s fully destroyed;the fiasco in Afghan istan where literally hum an parts were found on the landing gear of aircrafts!America has caused agony and sufferings from the entire Middle East but claims to Love those in Xinjiang,calls out about Human rights abuses in Xinjiang but enslaves Africans in their cotto n fields,talks about Taiwan’s freedoms but colonises Guam and Peurto Rico and many more.America manufactures wars and w apons to enrich their military contractors and corporate America;all in the name of security and was it”democracy”or fr eedoms,I forgot…America treats it’s etchic minority or natives even better;such as taking over their land and puttin g them in camps.
我们已经清楚地看到了美国的干预对世界的破坏程度,美国从一个“对他们来说没有什么价值、但已经被彻底摧毁的国家”离开并飞速逃离的速度有多快:阿富汗的惨败,在飞机起落架上发现了真正的人体组织碎片!美国给整个中东带来了痛苦和苦难,却声称爱新疆人,呼吁人权,却在棉田里奴役非洲人,谈论台湾,但殖民关岛和波多黎各等等。美国制造战争和武器,以让其军事承包商和美国企业大赚特赚,一切都是以安全的名义,是以“民主”或者“自由”的名义 美国对待它的少数民族或土著人更好,比如拿走他们的土地,将他们放进集中营

Pascal J.

@Viro L.Yes…America left Afghan istan”fast”.Only 20 years they were there…Weird how every Afghani I meet likes Am erica and blames most of the ills they or their family have experienced on the Taliban.The fact of the matter is that no country can fix itself unless it does so from within.Other country’s can only establish some genuine order if the conquer the nation.I agree with the overall gist of what you say Viro in the first half of what you say but the rest is gib..ber ish.Slavery occurred 150+ years ago and the US and a few other nations in the world like Australia and Canada are the onl ynations on Earth attempting a melting pot society which is a necessary experiment..
是的…美国“迅速”离开阿富汗,他们在那里只待了20年…奇怪的是,我遇到的每个阿富汗人都喜欢美国,并将他们或他们的家人所经历的大部分问题都归咎于塔利班。事实是,除非从内部进行,否则任何国家都无法进行自我修复。如果征服了这个国家,其他国家只能(帮助)建立一些真正的秩序。我同意你评论前半部分的总体观点,但其余部分就是胡说八道了,奴隶制发生在150多年前,美国和世界上其他一些国家(如澳大利亚和拿大)是地球上唯一尝试建立大熔炉式社会的国家,这是一项必要的实验。

Francis C.

@Pascal J.Have you bothered to the Afghans left behind??Have you heard of their starvation??
@Pascal J。你有关心注意下留在阿富汗的阿富汗人吗?你听说过他们的饥饿吗?

Viro L.

The US has openly supplied arms to many countries and carpet bombs coun tries throughout the World;from the middle east t o Asia,all in the name of freedom and security and another favourite term”human rights”!This is good news that China’s arms supplies would act as a counter weight to NATOS.
美国公开向很多国家提供武器,对世界各地的国家进行地毯式轰炸,从中东到亚洲,一切都以自由和安全的名义,以及另一个最喜欢的术语“人权”!这是一个好消息,中国的武器供应将成为北约的制衡力量。

Buck W.

@Viro L.Awesome…let’s create more carnage for the Ukranian population.
@Viro L.真棒让我们制造更多的关于乌克兰人的屠杀。

Walter T.

@Buck W.You mean only Uncle Sam is allowed to do that?
@Buck W。你的意思是只有山姆大叔被允许这样做(运输武器)?

Li Chee K.

“Back in 2020,US officials warned Belgrade against the purchase of HQ-22….it must align its military equipment with Western standards.”–Translation,it must re-direct all purchases to keep American weapons factories running.
“早在2020年,美国官员就警告贝尔格莱德不要购买HQ-22..它必须使其军事装备与西方标准保持一致。”一翻译:它必须重置所有的采购以保持美国武器工厂的运转。

Stan F.

@Li chee K.Good news though,the Serbs prefer to keep the Chinese weapons factories running instead.That’s sure to make Norinco happy.
@Li chee K。不过,好消息是,塞尔维亚人更愿意让中国的武器工厂继续运转。这肯定会让北方工业公司高兴。

Li Chee K.

@Stan F.Excellent,much better value for the Serbs,rather than overpriced,shoddy American weapons.
@Stan F。对于塞尔维亚人来说,物超所值,而不是价格过高、劣质的美国武器。

Li Chee K.

Beautiful.If the US and its vassal states can engage in gun running tanks,MiGs,and other weapons through Poland and wh o knows where else and building up a huge army in these former Warsaw Pact countries,then China is perfectly within its r ights to supply Serbia to allow it to defend itself.
真的很漂亮!如果美国及其附庸国可以通过波兰(或者其他不知道的国家)运输坦克、米格战斗机和其他的武器,并且在这些前华约国家建立(部署)一支庞大的军队,那么中国完全有权利向塞尔维亚提供武器以帮助其自卫。

Sue P.

@Li chee K.Is Serbia being attacked?I wasn’t aware of that.
@Li chee K.塞尔维亚被攻击了吗?我不认为如此。

Biddyy G.

@Sue P.Is Poland being attacked?Is Germany being attacked?No,so why is US supplying weapons?
@Sue P.波兰被攻击了吗?德国被攻击了吗?没有!那美国为什么要向他们提供武器?

Sue P.

@Biddyy G.The original post from Li chee K said”to supply Serbia to allow it to defend itself”.Serbia does not need to defend itself as it is not under attack.
回楼上:Li cheeK的原评论说的是“向塞尔维亚提供武器以帮助其自卫”。塞尔维亚不需要自卫,因为它没有受到攻击。

Li Chee K.

@Sue P.Silly response-should Serbia wait to be attacked before it can defend itself?
愚蠢的回复!塞尔维亚是否应该等到被攻击才能自卫?

Sue P.

@Li chee K.What country has indicated that they are going to attack Serbia??????Russia?Ukraine?Some other country?
@Li dhee K.哪个国家表示要攻击塞尔维亚?俄罗斯?乌克兰?还是别的国家?

Li Chee K.

@Sue P.The best defense is to be prepared.
@Sue P.最好的防御就是做好准备。

Sue P.

@Li chee K.Your response is just looping endlessly.Be’prepared’against whom?Who is the immediate threat to Serbia?
Why the need for armaments to Serbia from China,or anyone else?You never answered that question.
@Li chee K。你的回复只是无休止地循环。“准备好”是对付谁?谁是塞尔维亚的直接威胁?为什么需要从中国或其他任何国家向塞尔维亚提供军备?你从来没有回答过这个问题。

Li Chee K.

@Sue P.Same reason Australia is buying nuclear subs,who is it defending against?Thinking outside the box is a struggle
@Sue P.与澳大利亚购买核潜艇的原因相同,它在防御谁?跳出框框思考很难吗?

Sue P.

@Li chee K.Its not a struggle at all!The box may be something that surrounds you,not me.The answer to the Australian sub purchase may lie here
根本不难!可能是你的思想有框框,而不是我。澳洲购买核潜艇的答案可能就在这里

Guy T.

weapons to Serbia is just the weight towards helping the Russians war against Ukraine.
向塞尔维亚提供武器,只是帮助俄罗斯对乌克兰开战的砝码。

Morris M.

It’s ok for the US to sell it’s weapons,mostly outdated,overpriced weapons to its”allies”,but it’s a no no when other countries do it…
美国可以向其“盟友”出售武器一主要是过时的、价格过高的武器,但当其他国家这样做时,这是不行的

William S.

US and western media trying very hard to lix Russia to China in this Ukraine crisis.They using all kind of excuses to trying to subdue Russia and China the last two saviours of the world so the US can’roams’freely and do whatever they want after the demise of other powers.
在乌克兰危机中,美国和西方媒体极力将俄罗斯与中国联系起来。他们以各种借口试图压服俄罗斯和中国这两个世界最后的救世主,以便美国可以在其他大国消亡后自由行动并为所欲为。

Michael L.

@William S.Are you afraid of the US?
@William S.你害怕美国吗?

Biddyy G.

@William S.Actually,I think India has done the most to help by buying large amounts of cheap Russian oil
@WilliamS。实际上,我认为印度通过购买大量廉价的俄罗斯石油,(为俄罗斯)提供了最大的帮助。

Stu H.

@Biddyy G.And a good reason we should punish India by witholding military sales.
@Biddyy G。我们应该通过停止军售来惩罚印度,这是一个很好的理由。

Biddyy G.

@Stu H.The thing is even Europe is buying Russian oil and gas.So actually,we are all financing the war in Ukraine now.
@Stu H。问题是甚至欧洲也在购买俄罗斯的石油和天然气。所以实际上,我们现在都在为乌克兰的战争提供资金。

Li Chee K.

@William S.They want to prevent China and Russia from forming a anti-US belligerence alliance.
@WilliamS。他们想阻止中国和俄罗斯结成反美的战争联盟。

Dark F.

China has every right to sell arms to coun tries and to Russia for that matter.China however is not openly supporting Rus sian War in Ukraine,but that shouldn’t impose problems for selling weapons to Russia either,its business as usual,whatRussia is going to do with the weapons is their choice and concern,not that of Chinas.Just like when DJI selling drones to people,if they want to commit a crime with it,its not DJI problem.
中国完全有权就此向各国和俄罗斯出售武器。然而,中国并没有公开支持俄罗斯在乌克兰的战争,但这也不应该对向俄罗斯出售武器造成问题,这是和以前一样的正常贸易往来。俄罗斯将如何处理这些武器,是他们自己的选择和关注,而不是中国的选择和关注。就像大疆向人们出售无人机一样,如果他们想用它犯罪,那不是大疆的问题。

Red Panda:.

They(US)said that if Ser bia really wants to join the European unx and other Western alliances,it must align its milit ary equipment with Western standards.’So the US decides on who joins the EU now?Also,why is everyone worried?The US ha s been delivering weapons to Taiwan on a regular basis without these same countries saying anything.
“他们(美国)说,如果塞尔维亚真的想加入欧盟和其他西方联盟,就必须使其军事装备与西方标准保持一致。”所以美国现在可以决定谁能加入欧盟?还有,为什么大家都很担心?美国一直在定期向台湾(地区)运送武器,而这些国家却一言不发。

Patrick O.

@Red panda:.US has nothing to say about EU,but about NATO.But EU is usually lixed with NATO.Every country can hinder Serbis to join however,not only US.
美国对(谁能加入)欧盟没有话语权,但对加入北约是有话语权的。但欧盟通常与北约联系在一起。不过,每个国家都可以阻止塞尔维亚人加入,不仅仅是美国。

Mike Z.

Serbia buys arms from the US,Russia,and China.It maintains neutrality in its defense purchases.
I love the unnecessary editorializing though,”Russian-ally Serbia”.The US/UK/Aus killing civilians and slitting throats isn’t mentioned in the sextive outrage of neo-liberal media though.
塞尔维亚从美国、俄罗斯和中国购买武器,它在国防采购方面保持中立。
不过,我喜欢文章中添加的不必要的评论描述-“俄罗斯的盟友塞尔维亚”。但是呢,新自由主义媒体的选择性愤怒,并不会提到美国/英国/澳大利亚杀害平民和割喉这些事情。

CL.

Western concerns about arms buildup?So only NATO can bring a boat load of weapons and soldiers to eastern europe?I mean western hyp ocrisy cant get worse than this.
西方担心军备集结?所以只有北约才能将一船的武器和士兵带到东欧吗?我的意思是,西方的虚伪还有比这更糟糕的吗?

Patrick O.

@C L.Is it hypocrisy if russia invades an neighboring country?Nato didnt reinforce in any significant way before thr in vasion,but with Madman Putin loving wargames,there is no other option but to bring weapons to the eastern borders.
如果俄罗斯入侵了一个邻国,那(北约将武器带到东欧)是虚伪吗?北约在这次战争之前没有任何明显加强(其东部军力)的行为,但由于普京喜欢玩战争游戏,除了将武器带到北约的东部边境之外,别无选择。

CL.

Yes,it is.Have you not heard of NATO’s bombing of Yugoslavia?Russia-friendly nations are as vulunerable to being invad ed/attacked as NATO-friendly countries like Ukraine are,except of course you seem to have am-nesia when it comes to US/NA TO aggression.
是的。你没听说过北约轰炸南斯拉夫吗?与俄罗斯关系友好的国家,和乌克兰这样对北约友好的国家一样,也很容易受到入侵/攻击,当然,(一提到)美国/北约的侵略方面,你似乎患有健忘症。

Joey S.

What are you talking about?On the one hand,US is brocasting to strengthen Eastern Europe”security”by sending more NAT O troops and by fleshing out hypersonic bases(I doubt US gets that system functional yet),but on the other hand this Chinese AD system delivery”threaten the fragile peace in the region”?What peace?It is alrady broken by the NATO Eastern Eu rope expansion policies.Just remember,no Eastern Europe Monroe Doctrine,no peace.
(文章作者)在说什么?一方面,美国吹嘘正在通过派造更多北约部队和加强高超音速导弹基地,来加强东欧的“安全”(我怀疑美国还没能让这种系统发挥作用),但另一方面,中国的这种防空系统交付“威胁到该地区脆弱的和平”?什么和平?北约的东欧扩张政策已经打破了这种(和平)。请记住,没有东欧门罗主义!没有和平!

Patrick O.

@Joey S.Why do you write”security”?Most eastern european countries actually are afraid if an aggressive russian nation.They dont own nuclear weapons.And see what happened to Ukraine.More weapons are always bad.But sometimes they are ne essary.So yes…increasing weapon loadouts in a fragile region is dangerous.
@Joey S.你为什么要写“安全”?大多数东欧国家,实际上都害怕一个咄咄逼人的俄罗斯。(东欧国家)不拥有核武器.看看乌克兰发生了什么。更多的武器是不好的,但有时它们是必要的。所以,是的在脆弱地区增加军备是危险的。

Sukses B.

Russian ally Serbia took the delivery of a sophisticated Chinese anti-aircraft system in a veiled operation this weekend,amid Western concerns that an arms build-up in the Balkans at the time of the war in Ukraine could threaten the fragile p eace in the region.But when the US keep selling weapon to Taiwan,Western also concerns that it could threaten the fragil e peace in the region.But they can’t speak out.
“俄罗斯的盟友塞尔维亚,在本周末一次隐蔽行动中接收了中国先进的防空系统,所以西方担心乌克兰战争期间巴尔干半岛的军备集结可能威胁该地区脆弱的和平”。那么当美国不断向台湾(地区)出售武器时,西方也担心这会威胁到该地区脆弱的和平,但他们就是说不出口。

Nick D.

Of course,when the US sells arms to Taiwan and other coun tries it is to protect democracy and aid their allies no matter how destuctive the region becomes.As long as it’s not in their backyard..
当然,当美国向台湾(地区)和其他国家出售武器时,都是为了保护“民主”并帮助他们的盟友,无论该地区会变得多么破坏性…只要这不是在他们的后院。